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Review: BFI Stage 1 Torque Mount Insert 70a

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SFvalleyGTi1

Go Kart Champion
After getting my GTI I was itching to begin modding it but I wasn't sure where to start. I decided to dive into some cheap mods while I researched on the more important things. I read about Black Forest Industries and all the mounts they sell. I could not find anything negative about the company or their product.

Purchase

I decided to make a purchase of the BFI stg1 torq mount insert from HStuning.com because they had a special on free shipping. The mount was shipped within 2 days, as I checked my door step daily nothing had arrived. After a few days I received an email from Jon @ HStuning stating they had shipped my mounts to another customer in error. I was pretty pissed that this happened but was assured by Jon that everything would be taken care of promptly. A few days later I received the package and was pretty damn happy to see it after waiting about a week.


Install

The install was pretty straight forward, get the car up in the air with jack stands. Loosen the bolt that holds the stock mount/dog bone. Spray the stock mount and BFI mount with Silicone spray. Insert BFI mount into stock mounting space, it required some pressure to get it all the way in. You dont need a mallet or anything crazy... Once the mount is in, you unscrew the factory bolt and then insert a retaining washer which is supplied by BFI. After the washer, you place a larger washer and then a bolt... torqing the bolt to 74ft lbs. It took me about 20 minutes to do, toughest part is probably breaking loose the factory mount bolt.


Product/Quality

The BFI stage 1 mount is 70a durometer (lowest durometer available?), its bigger than I expected it to be but its also pretty flimsy/soft. In the past I had a hockey puck style mount on my Mk3 jetta which made a lot of vibrations. I didn't expect the BFI mount to create any vibrations based on its design...

Once I had the BFI insert installed, I turned on the car and didn't feel any vibrations. I took the car for a drive and was amazed at how easily the car goes into gears. It seems like the transmission is much smoother when rowing through gears and theres no more jerky feeling.

I tested the car in reverse and was surprised at the amount of vibrations. The vibrations in reverse is a lot, to the point where I'm sure it'll create rattles down the road when the car has 40K+ miles. The vibrations in reverse only seem to occur at a specific RPM, around 700-900rpm anything above or below this range the vibrations are minimal or none.

Overall I'm satisfied with the purchase of BFI Stg1 insert and HStuning. I highly doubt the BFI stage 2 mount would create more vibrations at idle than stage 1, but without doubt it would be too much when in reverse especially for a new car.

I forgot to take pictures during the install, but here is one post install...


 
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dallasjetfan

Ready to race!
Hilfloskind said:
The vibration issue is the only thing giving me pause about this otherwise obvious upgrade.
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I did this mod on my GLI and don't think I will do it on the GTI. It makes a difference for sure, but I always hated the vibrations. We'll see how I feel when I go Stage I though.
 
Hilfloskind

Hilfloskind

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My friend who has had multiple torque mounts said that the vibration in reverse is minimal on a manual transmission...besides that, it's almost non-existent. He said it's one of the best bang for your buck mods, especially once you go stage one or beyond. I'll be ordering mine next paycheck, if not sooner.
 
Bruh Man

Bruh Man

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Hilfloskind said:
My friend who has had multiple torque mounts said that the vibration in reverse is minimal on a manual transmission...besides that, it's almost non-existent.
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Lol-love my 90a mount, but let's be real. Unless you're riding the clutch, vibrations in reverse are pretty significant. Reverse and idle with the A/C on are the only negatives for me, which is minimal.
 
Hilfloskind

Hilfloskind

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Well...I use reverse so rarely, other than backing out of my own driveway and work parking spot, that I would expect this to be a minor annoyance. Actually, to be honest, I go such a small distance backing up that I can't really just let go of the clutch and go.
 
Bruh Man

Bruh Man

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Hilfloskind said:
Well...I use reverse so rarely, other than backing out of my own driveway and work parking spot, that I would expect this to be a minor annoyance. Actually, to be honest, I go such a small distance backing up that I can't really just let go of the clutch and go.
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Which is how I feel, but to say vibrations are minimal in reverse is misleading/untrue. It's rare, but I've had to back up on a hill or a long driveway, and that is when you realize how heavy the vibrations can be.
 
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SFvalleyGTi1

Go Kart Champion
Hilfloskind said:
My friend who has had multiple torque mounts said that the vibration in reverse is minimal on a manual transmission...besides that, it's almost non-existent. He said it's one of the best bang for your buck mods, especially once you go stage one or beyond. I'll be ordering mine next paycheck, if not sooner.
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Bruh Man said:
Lol-love my 90a mount, but let's be real. Unless you're riding the clutch, vibrations in reverse are pretty significant. Reverse and idle with the A/C on are the only negatives for me, which is minimal.
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I agree with Bruh Man, Reverse is where these mounts cause significant vibrations. The vibration with a cold start @ idle are a little more than normal but nothing like reverse. I hope I can find someone at a GTG with the 90a mount.

Dare someone try to reverse up a hill like I do daily... It can't be good for all the screws in the car long term.... I foresee lots of rattles.
 
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dallasjetfan

Ready to race!
IMO, if you can deal with the vibes in reverse or in 1st up a steep hill then this mod is very worth it. I did it on my GLI, but I doubt I will do it on the GTI because I hated the vibes. Then again I forget how much of a difference this mod made. Now I think I want to try it again just because of the crisp shifts!
 
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dallasjetfan

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SFvalleyGTi said:
I agree with Bruh Man, Reverse is where these mounts cause significant vibrations. The vibration with a cold start @ idle are a little more than normal but nothing like reverse. I hope I can find someone at a GTG with the 90a mount.

Dare someone try to reverse up a hill like I do daily... It can't be good for all the screws in the car long term.... I foresee lots of rattles.
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I remember my insert settled in after about 1000 miles and it was 88, not 70. Good luck!
 
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