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K04: AWE news? APR TSI Software News?

grambles423

Automotive Engineer
Ok, now for the ultimate:

Are there any plans for AWE to move their K04 kit to the MK6? This would be a huge thumbs up, but what would compliment it even more is if APR had a K04 tune for it, or even a K04 Kit. I know it has been discussed over on the golfmkv.com and vwvortex.com board but that seemed to have died rather quickly.

Arin, do you have any comments? or Todd? or somebody?

I think a K04 would be a great step below a stage 3 for those who couldnt afford the ZOMG bonerific all out power. It would be a good daily driver with at least 300whp (providing supporting mods) and affordable with a tag of $2500-$3000 for a kit (software included)

Just an idea.

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UPDATE: Seems AWE has the kit for the MKV for $2000. Add another $300 for existing APR customers for the software and BAM $2300 for a nice K04 kit. (Again, providing you have intercooler, TBE, intake etc.) Easy 300WHP

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UPDATE: Here's a good comparison of Stage 3 vs the K04 kit. Lets take the kits and all (And i mean ALL) supporting mods.

K04: AWE TSI Kit, AWE CCB, AWE TBE, S3 Intercooler = $4995 This does not include shipping or installation costs. That can easily tack on about another $500-$1000. The nearest dealer is in Atlanta so even if I did install it myself I would have a 2.5 hour drive ahead of me to get the software done. Maybe they offer shipping of the ECU, but even then that's a pain in the ass to remove. Buying Bulk discounts?

~360hp, 355ft-lbs crank

APR: APR Stage 3 kit, Intercooler, Stage 1 Intake (no stage 2 needed, it comes with nifty MAF tubing), Midpipe (Comes with a downpipe) = $6850 No shipping since I live in Auburn and APR HQ is just 3 miles away. Bulk Discounts?

~370hp, 385ft-lbs crank

If APR can offer a K04 solution for roughly $5000 including supporting mods, I would probably not hesitate. Or hell, maybe even just software. But then theres issues dealing with AWE warranty vs. APR warranty. blah blah blah. It would be easier for APR to sell a K04 Kit and have a middle of the road solution. But one could argue Stage 3 kit sales.....who knows maybe somebody can shed some light to further this research.

Plus its all covered under warranty at most dealers. (I believe that's what Jack Ingram's said. All APR products are covered....probably does not include stage 3).

When you put everything into perspective, then it starts making sense.
 
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Stein357

Ready to race!
From the thread on VWvortex, it sounds like if APR makes software for the K04, they will be making a turbo kit to go with it, a "complete solution."
 

grambles423

Automotive Engineer
FSI K04 is not the same as TSI K04.

You have a link to the thread?
 

grambles423

Automotive Engineer
bump for some awesomeness
 

MasterKevin

Ready to race!
We have recently completed our Stage2 development on our in house Mk6 GTI. We are going to get acceleration data this weekend and then immediately move onto K04 development. We hope to have a kit ready for release by end of June at the latest!

Thanks for your interest.

wow this sounds awesome and very fast.

If you guys can offer a competitive price for your kit would be very very interesting to see what APR do to be competitive.

I hope with this K04 upgrade kit it will also come with a stage 3 program etc etc.

Will be interesting on prices and quality etc etc.

Kevin
 

grambles423

Automotive Engineer
We have recently completed our Stage2 development on our in house Mk6 GTI. We are going to get acceleration data this weekend and then immediately move onto K04 development. We hope to have a kit ready for release by end of June at the latest!

Thanks for your interest.

I completely forgot I sent you a PM about this earlier. But its good to see a timeline and some development! However, I'm concerned with my predicament to ship yall my ECU. Any comments?

Those power numbers are way skewed as they were produced on different dynos. The APR stage 3 kit is good for another 40-50 wheel HP over the K04 on regular pump fuel. There is absolutely no comparison.

Yeah, I remember reading somewhere about this but I went according to your graphs on your site (I assumed wheel HP). Do you have any recent updated graphs? That'll help break the decision better, but you should also let the common consumer be well aware of this distinction between wheel and crank hp on the goapr.com site. Unless you have a better explanation? I'm still a little iffy about this. 40-50 more WHEEL hp is still excellent!

Do either of yall have comments regarding bulk packages? If I were to buy everything all at once, obviously I would have a major burning shithole in my wallet, could either of yall ease the burning sensation? Maybe some Preperation H? :rolleyes:

Sorry for being a pest, Being an engineer has a very meticulous control over me and I like to get things right the first time. lol
 
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MasterKevin

Ready to race!
Dw this thread is very helpful to a lot of thinking about going stage 3.

Seems liek APR is the only ones with Stage 3 atm.

So the competition in pricing is very minimal.

Its interesting to see how it will play out.

Kevin
 

turbor850

Ready to race!
Stage 3 is great, but not for my daily driver. I don't need uber hp to go to work everyday. If I need hp, I'll hop in my Shelby GT500. I feel that the K04 is the perfect compromise between stock and having a very fast car. $2500 K04 kit + $240 S3 intercooler + $300 intake + $500 downpipe = $4200 total installed for 300 whp . . . . sign me up, thats all I need.

Stage 3 (plus required modifications) installed is how much ? $6000, $7000 ? And by then i'm maxing my engine which doens't make me feel safe, been there done that. . . .

SO I feel that a K04 is the right kit for me, anyone else feel this way?
 

munkey

Ready to race!
We have recently completed our Stage2 development on our in house Mk6 GTI. We are going to get acceleration data this weekend and then immediately move onto K04 development. We hope to have a kit ready for release by end of June at the latest!

Thanks for your interest.

Bump because its the end of june :)

Any updates todd?
 
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