Exactly. That is what we all want. The reaction to be immediate and responsive.
I don't know who these people who wouldn't want that is but man, that should be standard and I would expect most people would indeed want and need it.
Why do they have the delay in there if it is programmed in by software? What is the delay protecting?
So is it a ECU tune fix or a TCU tune fix? Or can it be fixed in both?
It
is the ECU that causes what I'm talking about.
Afaik, everybody has their dislikes about the factory engine management system, we've tried our best to accommodate a few of the ones that seem to be more universal.
1) People don't like obnoxious CBFA cold start so we removed it (med17.x is confirmed, med17.5.2 isn't).
2) People do not like rev hang, we sorted it (med17.x and not med17.5.2, sorry GLI guys).
3) People do not like throttle lag.
Here's the main issue that nobody realizes. Half of the people complaining about 1 issue, are actually talking about different things. I'll give an example;
Let's look at throttle lag -
a) Some people with DSG consider throttle lag something called 'stalldrezahl'. Which is the amount of slip that the dsg produces when accelerating from a stop. This can vary depending on selected mode (D, S or M) and throttle position. I could fix real 'throttle lag' and people would say the software did nothing.
b) Some people prefer accelerator pedals to be very aggressive, such that 25% acc ped = 50% available engine torque and so on. I could fix the 'throttle lag' and people would still be unhappy.
c) The people who are complaining about throttle lag that are actually experiencing throttle lag. When this is fixed in the software, they practically want to take me out on a date to a nice dinner.
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Let's look at other popular complaints on this forum. There's one I've seen a lot recently, it is forum members experiencing a delay after trying to make a fast/hard shift.
I'll give a real world scenario, a buddy of mine stated his car had this. When he went to show me, the lag after the shift was due to the way he shifted the car. When I drove his car to display it, the lag didn't exist.
On the other side of this coin, I've seen logs from a couple forum members where after a shift takes place it'll take ~1.0-1.5 seconds for actual TB angle to catch up to requested TB angle. This doesn't look like the scenario I described above.
So what is it? Is it real? Is it not real? Is it software, or did the customer install an aftermarket part that doesn't play well with the med17.x ecu? Who knows. I know it'd cost a lot of development time to try to find it on a crap shoot.
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Here's another thing to consider, if you look in this forum you'll probably see at least 4-5 things similar to what was mentioned above. The people who are passionate about these issues, they're the most vocal about it. Which in some cases, makes it appear that something is more of a widespread concern than it really is. A lot of things that I've spent countless hours on, due to concerns from forum members end up not being something desirable in practice. For example the Rev-Hang delete, when this is offered as an option by my brother (sales guy) 4 out of 5 customers don't understand what it is and don't want it as an option due to fear of the unknown. The ones that do understand and opt to get it pretty much act like it is NBD. Then, you run into that 1 customer, who was on the brink of selling their car if they couldn't find a rev-hang fix. If you were to follow the forum's trends, you'd end up completely confused with a lot of burnt development time
I am probably the most concerned with these nuisances than anybody else. I guess you can say we try to be the 'tuner of the people' and fix these issues. I'm an enthusiast, I daily drive a Mk6 GTI as well. I also understand, that as the new tuner on the scene you need to offer something new to set yourself apart and really focus on making people happy. This is why we spent time on Rev-Hang, Cold Start Delete, E85 files and developed the Golf R map sensor K04+ file (although, obviously others have caught on to using this sensor after we gained a lot of
popularity for using it on FSI and using it for TSI beta development).
If you read through this wall of text, you can see my dilemma. I'd like to fix these nuisances but they need to be narrowed down to a specific issue and everybody needs to be talking about the same thing. I wish I could make a thread with a detailed questionnaire and survey, but I don't know if that'd even be successful.
